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GMart1120's avatar
GMart1120
Helpful | Level 6
3 years ago

Safari 16.1 (macOS Ventura) cannot access Dropbox files

Safari cannot open the page.The error is: "The operation couldn't be completed.  (kCFErrorDomainCFNetwork error 1.)" (kCFErrorDomainCFNetwork:1)

 

Dropbox recently moved itself to "a safer location", i.e., ~/Library/CloudStorage/Dropbox.  Everything was fine.  Afterward, I upgraded macOS to 13.0 (Ventura).  Safari is now ver 16.1 and cannot open html files stored in Dropbox.  All other apps appear to be quite happy with cloud versions of Dropbox files, including Chrome, TextEdit, macVim, Terminal, etc.  Probably something minor, but not sure what.

  • Megan's avatar
    Megan
    2 years ago

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  • wbrehob's avatar
    wbrehob
    New member | Level 2

    Same issue on macOS 12.6.2, Safari 16.2, Dropbox 6 / 165.4.4300

     

    I feel that much of this is due to macOS / Safari sandboxing, but I think Dropbox in its pursuit of online/offline capabilities also added t this.  It would be nice if Dropbox developers could provide a better solution than "give Safari full disk access".  Firefox seems to understand that it needs special access to Dropbox (and not full disk access), so could Dropbox work with Apple and Safari devlopers for the same thing?

    • kpitt's avatar
      kpitt
      New member | Level 2

      I'm running on  macOS Ventura 13.2.1, and I'm having the same problem with accessing Dropbox files from Safari. However, my company uses OneDrive for file sharing and I'm having the same problem there. It seems to be a general problem with Safari accessing files from any "Cloud Storage" provider that is using the Apple File Provider API. Every other application I've tried will prompt for access the first time I try to open a file from one of these locations, but Safari does not.

      It's probably not directly related to the same issue, but there is also a problem with displaying the access permissions under System Settings > Privacy & Security > Files and Folders. I used a text editor application to open a file from both Dropbox and OneDrive, and it brought up the appropriate access prompt for each provider. However, if I then look at the "access user files" permissions, I see two entries for "Dropbox" instead of one for "Dropbox" and one for "OneDrive".

  • Walter's avatar
    Walter
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    Hey there GMart1120, thanks for flagging this with us.

     

    Can you please let me know if this happens with files that are online only or if it's about files that are available offline on your computer?

     

    Does the issue persist on other browsers perhaps? 

     

    Any additional information or screenshots of the errors you get will be much appreciated.

    • GMart1120's avatar
      GMart1120
      Helpful | Level 6

      Walter: per your request, here's a screenshot of the Safari error message.  I believe you will find the text exactly as I stated in my original post.  With respect to the online/offline question, the file I ask Safari to open has already been opened by Chrome and TextEdit.  What else can I provide?  Thank you for your interest.

       

      • Megan's avatar
        Megan
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        Hey GMart1120, thanks for the screenshot, very helpful! 

         

        Does this happen with all of your .html files, or only some of them? Also, could you clarify the state of the files too (online-only, available offline)? 

    • DCSkipper's avatar
      DCSkipper
      Explorer | Level 3

      This happens for me with offline html files.  Safari won't open them if they are in Dropbox locally on my computer.  I don't know about online ones.  It  also took me a long time to find the location of Dropbox files on my Mac using Ventura OS so that I could upload them using the latest version of FileZilla.

      • DCSkipper's avatar
        DCSkipper
        Explorer | Level 3

        I just checked and the html file that wouldn't open with Safari opened with Chrome.

  • KePar's avatar
    KePar
    Explorer | Level 3

    Same problem after Dropbox moved this week my files to ~/Library/CloudStorage/Dropbox. Use most recent Mac Ventura version. Safari Versie 16.1 (18614.2.9.1.12). 

    Don't see any solution yet. Anything coming?

    • Joel B.6's avatar
      Joel B.6
      New member | Level 2

      Same problem here. Ventura 13.1; Safari 16.2 (18614.3.7.1.5); Dropbox v163.4.5456.
      Static HTML file stored in Dropbox.
      Same effect with file as default access or set to "Make available offline"

       

      File _is_ accessible via Chrome 108.0.5359.124, and other apps such as BBEdit.

       

      Interestingly, when I tried to open with Firefox (104.0.2), it requested access to files managed by Dropbox, and then opened the file...using the _old_ link. Firefox appears to be following the newly-created alias into the new CloudStorage directory...and Chrome seems to be able to do that too. Safari will not do this.

      I suppose it's also worth noting that Safari _will_ open a copy of the same file located in iCloud Drive.

      • GMart1120's avatar
        GMart1120
        Helpful | Level 6

        There doesn't appear to be any movement on this issue.  Alternatively, is there a way to move the Dropbox directory out of ~/Library/CloudStorage/, back to "normal space"?  I'd like to resume using Dropbox, but the current situation is a showstopper.

  • mrkva's avatar
    mrkva
    Explorer | Level 3

    Found a solution. You need to give Safari "Full disk access" via System Settings (Privacy tab in Privacy & Security part)

    • KePar's avatar
      KePar
      Explorer | Level 3
      Correct. Works. But is it safe? normally an app asks for permission for the part of your drive it needs.
    • DCSkipper's avatar
      DCSkipper
      Explorer | Level 3

      Don't see Safari listed under full disk access.  Do I need to add it manually?

      • mrkva's avatar
        mrkva
        Explorer | Level 3

        Yes, add it manually via the "+" button. Not sure about the safety of this method, it is up to Dropbox/Apple to say...

    • GMart1120's avatar
      GMart1120
      Helpful | Level 6

      mrkva - Thank you!  Yes, I believe that will work.  However, I will hold off implementing pending additional research on granting "Full Disk Access" to Safari.  There are less than 10 items on the Full Disk Access list and none of them are enabled.  My intuition tells me enabling Safari is not the safe thing to do.  

      • Megan's avatar
        Megan
        Icon for Dropbox Staff rankDropbox Staff

        Happy Monday guys! 

         

        Thanks for keeping us updated, and for sharing your finds with the Community. I'll forward your feedback to the appropriate areas so we can continue to improve.

         

        If you need anything else, let me know!

  • Jasiu's avatar
    Jasiu
    New member | Level 2

    Just read through this whole thread... So do I have it right that the only solution at this point is full disk access?

     

    If that's the case, where does the "real" fix need to be done? (Apple or Dropbox?)

     

    Thanks!

    • GMart1120's avatar
      GMart1120
      Helpful | Level 6

      Jasiu - everyone will probably have different opinions on the answer to your question.  In my case, the situation was initiated by Dropbox moving itself to "a protected location" on the boot drive of my MacBook Pro.  So my opinion is that Dropbox is responsible for the ultimate resolution.  And granting Full Disk Access to Safari is not, in my opinion, the solution.

      • GMart1120's avatar
        GMart1120
        Helpful | Level 6

        As I think about this situation, it occurs to me that I don't understand enough about "the protected area" where Dropbox moved now resides.  If that is the case, educate me (us).  Explain where Dropbox moved to and why.  What are the advantages, the side effects, the restrictions?  It obviously affects our daily interactions with macOS, knowing more about it would help.  BTW, thanks to everyone who contributed to this conversation.  All of our comments helped lead us to this point.

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